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[Jose]

frquency seem to be better? http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_16654_Pioneer+Premier+TS-W1208D2.html

here are both of them compared
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/compare_items.php?sort_order=%2Fviewcat.php%3Fcate gory_id%3D41%26sort_order%3Dname_asc%26items_per_p age%3D100&product_id%5B%5D=8363&product_id%5B%5D=1 6654

or would you rather buy this one still cheaper than kicker cvrhttp://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_16666_Pioneer+Premier+TS-W3002D2.html

..pros and cons about them ???the ohms and all that dont matter just which one is better ??

[Everett P]

KICKER
They have great sound quality, and they deliver much more bass.
Pioneers are better if you want a simple sound system with a little punch of bass.
You don't want to go cheap on a sound system in your car. If you do, its going to break, and your going to be 100 dollars short

[poodle]

Definitely the kickers, if you want a system that (pardon my french) f u c k i n g pounds then kicker is the one. Pioneers are great for just some added bass to your music. Though the kicker is more expensive its worth it if you want some LOUD @$$ bass. Make sure to put it in a vented box if you want the real deep tones to rumble. Hope i helped