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Imagine no teabaggers Originally Posted by Shot From Guns None of this is a "huge group of conservatives to instigate coordinated physical violence against Democrats/liberals," which is your premise. There are people in the conservative mainstream saying deeply stupid things, and there are a few people on the fringe who are getting physically confrontational to the point of violence against people or property. None of that is hordes of Limbaugh's dittoheads swarming the streets to pull everybody out of a car with an Obama bumpersticker and shoot them in the back of the head to lie in the street as a warning to others, which is what your retarded prediction amounts to. I don't think the danger necessarily comes from the teabaggers themselves. I think you may see a situation where their extreme elements do get involved in some violent shenanigans, and people start clamoring for increased police presence and powers. And we all know that the po pos are great at using those powers to restrain the subversive forces of the right, rather than directing them against dangerous leftist elements (like gays and ethnic minorities)...
Imagine no teabaggers
Imagine no teabaggers Originally Posted by YogSosoth I guess you missed the part where it already happened? [...] Prove that it wasn't a right-wing retard who told people to throw bricks through Democratic Congressmen's windows. Prove that it wasn't Palin who said to target Democrats, using crosshairs in her little powerpoint. Prove that people who are putting up signs comparing Obama and Hitler aren't conservatives. None of this is a "huge group of conservatives to instigate coordinated physical violence against Democrats/liberals," which is your premise. There are people in the conservative mainstream saying deeply stupid things, and there are a few people on the fringe who are getting physically confrontational to the point of violence against people or property. None of that is hordes of Limbaugh's dittoheads swarming the streets to pull everybody out of a car with an Obama bumpersticker and shoot them in the back of the head to lie in the street as a warning to others, which is what your retarded prediction amounts to.
Imagine no teabaggers Originally Posted by Shot From Guns Stop making me agree with you. YogSosoth, there are definitely some crazy, violent people on the fringe of the teabagger movement, but to expect some huge group of conservatives to instigate coordinated physical violence against Democrats/liberals... I guess you missed the part where it already happened? It will take no more than a couple of right-wingers, the Becks and the Limbaughs, to say that liberals are a threat and to throw shit through their windows to start a campaign of violence. Conservatives are so stupid they'd happily follow along with whatever their masters tell them to do But hey, prove me wrong. Prove that it wasn't a right-wing retard who told people to throw bricks through Democratic Congressmen's windows. Prove that it wasn't Palin who said to target Democrats, using crosshairs in her little powerpoint. Prove that people who are putting up signs comparing Obama and Hitler aren't conservatives. Sorry, but it's already begun to happen. The only way to stop continuing violence is if somehow all conservatives had their IQ's increased to triple digits. That, unfortunately, would take a miracle of the god that doesn't exist
Imagine no teabaggers Originally Posted by Shot From Guns Everybody who matters wins! I'll allow that.
Imagine no teabaggers Originally Posted by villa Well, not strictly speaking everybody. It's tough to see that scenario as a win for Mugabe, the person talking on the phone on the bus, or the teabaggers. Not saying it would be a bad thing as such, but just for accuracy's sake, you know... Everybody who matters wins! Originally Posted by Rand Rover Thank you, that's some good crazy. Stop making me agree with you. YogSosoth, there are definitely some crazy, violent people on the fringe of the teabagger movement, but to expect some huge group of conservatives to instigate coordinated physical violence against Democrats/liberals...
Imagine no teabaggers Originally Posted by Rand Rover Thank you, that's some good crazy. Yeah, all from the right wing side. Any defense, or just excuses? :dubious:
Imagine no teabaggers [QUOTE=YogSosoth;12729319][QUOTE=Rand Rover;12728371]Yog--, not sure why you don't unders
Imagine no teabaggers Originally Posted by Shot From Guns This is why all the world's problems would be solved if I had the ability to kill people with my mind. Teabaggers? Dead. Mugabe? Dead. Dude talking loudly on his cellphone on the bus? Dead. Everybody wins! Well, not strictly speaking everybody. It's tough to see that scenario as a win for Mugabe, the person talking on the phone on the bus, or the teabaggers. Not saying it would be a bad thing as such, but just for accuracy's sake, you know...
Imagine no teabaggers Originally Posted by Stoneburg I'm 100% behind you in not cutting slack for wilful ignorance. And I hope you will agree that wilful ignorance is a very real problem, that it affects everyone, and that itshould be fought as effectively as possible. Yeah, my objection was to the attitude that "it's not their fault, 'cause they just don't know any better." The problem, of course, is with how you effectively fight willful ignorance--as the saying goes, you can't argue out what wasn't argued in. This is why all the world's problems would be solved if I had the ability to kill people with my mind. Teabaggers? Dead. Mugabe? Dead. Dude talking loudly on his cellphone on the bus? Dead. Everybody wins!
Imagine no teabaggers Originally Posted by Shot From Guns Originally Posted by Stoneburg I wasn't attacking you, I was only pointing out that althoug it would be nice if wilful ignorance wasn't your problem, or mine, that's just not the case. Wilful ignorance will affect you, and you don't want it to, so it IS your problem. And mine. And everyone elses. Well, that's what happens when you don't fully articulate your response--I can't tell what part of my post you're responding to or what your actual position is. When I say willful ignorance isn't my problem, I don't mean that it doesn't affect me so much as I don't have to cut anybody any slack for it. Thanks for clarifying that. I'm 100% behind you in not cutting slack for wilful ignorance. And I hope you will agree that wilful ignorance is a very real problem, that it affects everyone, and that itshould be fought as effectively as possible.
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