#ptp-encoding
(11:09:55 PM) pham: Guys we are about to disolve this group
(11:09:59 PM) pham: legal reasons
(11:10:02 PM) pham: we cannot have a group
(11:10:34 PM) echohead: pham: TC has 2 groups. one for HD, one for SD. they made their own .nfo
(11:11:07 PM) _312c: or a group that didnt use the site's name
(11:11:08 PM) pham: TC also has a hiddeln shell corp
(11:11:14 PM) _312c: just happened to release only on PTP?
(11:11:19 PM) pham: Im not comfortable with this.
(11:11:45 PM) echohead: pham: yes, and that shell corp is run by ron paul. who is an alien. from the sun.
(11:13:28 PM) _312c: but, back to pham and legal issues of having a group associated with the site
(11:13:46 PM) echohead: because clearly the site was legal before
(11:13:57 PM) _312c: would a group that doesnt use the site name, only releases on the site, and uses a seperate IRC server be fine?
(11:14:20 PM) pham: You guys can release on our site, just not under the PTP brand.
(11:14:27 PM) _312c: okay
(11:14:31 PM) _312c: so, we need a new name ..>
(11:14:34 PM) _312c: *>.>
(11:14:58 PM) echohead: actually, thats good... i kinda hated 'ptp release group'
(11:15:01 PM) _312c: or a new meaning for PTP
(11:15:28 PM) echohead: made it sound like we were some shitty public tracker trying to impress demonoid users
(11:15:42 PM) _312c: deffinately need a .nfo
(11:15:46 PM) echohead: bleh
(11:17:36 PM) echohead: pham: so whats the status on everything else? i mean, will this still be an 'official' group with its own userclass or more of an informal thing?
(11:17:56 PM) pham: im not sure
(11:18:15 PM) pham: i spoke to a lawyer and doing an official group would be damnation
(11:18:49 PM) echohead: you spoke to a lawyer about the legal ramifications of having an encoding group for your illegal torrent site...
(11:20:11 PM) echohead: thats like robbing a bank but not bringing a backup gun because it might get you into trouble.
(11:20:54 PM) _312c: makes sense though
(11:21:00 PM) _312c: technically we are a "backup" site
(11:21:27 PM) _312c: even though i never scroll that far down on the page
(11:22:30 PM) echohead: ive yet to hear about a single case where a site-endorsed encoding group became the reason for a tracker being shut down
(11:22:54 PM) _312c: it wouldnt be the reason, but it would be a nail in the coffin if trouble ever arose
(11:23:17 PM) echohead: theres a forum thread about collecting criterion discs here.... in just about any court, that would be interpreted as the site undermining criterion as a company in particular
(11:23:39 PM) echohead: but slapping the name of the site on a few torrents is somehow worse than this
(11:23:49 PM) echohead: the logic is circular at best.