Can we not moan about movies in this thread? It's for moaning about silly editing, not the movies themselves. Cheers. *feels like the thread police*
Can we not moan about movies in this thread? It's for moaning about silly editing, not the movies themselves. Cheers. *feels like the thread police*
Rewind is a good site for comparing cuts between different DVD releases.
Well yes, but that's what I was saying. I think the term 'breaching BBFC rules' is wrong. It isn't about breaking rules, but whether a film fits certain criteria. It's very rare for the BBFC to ban films completely; they would mostly just get an 18 certificate.
Personally I don't see any problem with film rating. I don't think unaccompanied children should be allowed to wander into any film, and I don't agree that anyone should be allowed in if accompanied by an adult (as is the case for R rated films in America). Some parental responsibility has been given with the 12-A rating, but even that's not great. Often there isn't enough information available about what's in the film, so parents can't really make an informed choice without seeing it first (which clearly isn't going to happen).
What I'm saying is that the studios and distributors make the ultimate decision of whether to re-edit to get a lower rating, or stick with the uncut version and receive a higher rating. They will make their decisions based on the target audience for the film. So, when for example Alpha Dog was submitted and received a 15, they weren't questioning what they could cut out to get a 12-A, because adults are the target. When Agent Cody Banks was to receive a 15, they decided to cut a short scene in order to get a 12-A, otherwise the target audience would have been banned from seeing the film.
Eh? That is what EVERY SINGLE POST on this thread is about.
[EDIT: Errr... except one. ]
Check this out then, the edits made to the American TV version of Die Hard 2, absolutely "freaking" hilarious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a90Hj9lsEq4
'Casino Royale' came in for some scissor work to achieve a certain rating. The odd thing being that in this case the US version was even worse than the UK version. Cut free versions are available from the Far East, though.
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Mark
Agreed,but the bottom line is that the BBFC are the ones who ultimately decide if cuts are needed.
Its annoying when a film can get through uncut with a PG-13 in the US but enRAB up with cuts for a 12 here.
Its ridiculous that children can watch I Spit On Your Grave uncut in the US when accompanied by an adult yet in the UK we have massive cuts for adult viewing.
However its nice to see the trend changing in recent years when quite often the UK will get an uncut 18 while the US get cuts for an R
[QUOTE=Currer Bell;14574667]This has actually been happening for a few years, but it's got to the point where I'm tearing my hair out over the issue.
Basically, classic films are being rereleased on DVD but they have footage cut out so that they can fit with the new guidance rating they've been given upon the rerelease.
Examples of DVRAB that suffer cuts due to re-ratings: Edward ScissorhanRAB, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and Batman Returns. I think there was stuff edited on the DVD episodes of Buffy The Vampire Slayer as well.
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i have edward scissorhanRAB on dvd, it's rated pg (i got it cos i remembered it from when i was younger and thought the kiRAB would now like it)
what bit is missing then?
i can't remember what it was like before, if you see what i mean
Ah, but what you're talking about here is the different criteria used by the BBFC and MPAA.
I don't have anything concrete, but I reckon based on our societies, violence and drug use will be taken more seriously by the BBFC than the MPAA, and the opposite will be true for sex and nudity.
It's true that people of any age can see an R rated film in America if accompanied by an adult, but it's not a practice I support. Some films are simply not appropriate for children, and a parent can't make an informed decision about whether or not a film is suitable for their child based on the pre-release information available.
I had never heard of the film you mentioned, but I've looked it up and and it seems that the US R rated version is heavily cut, moreso than the UK 18 certificate version.
Saw Under Siege the other day, on FX I think it was, and there were about a million bits I hadnt seen before!
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