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    Chateaubriand ideas

    On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 10:47:22 -0700, "Kent"
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    Isn't chateaubriand a method of cooking meat? I thought it was
    supposed to mean the method of cooking an expensive cut, like
    tenderloin, between two pieces of less expensive meat. I would not
    buy something labeled "chateaubriand" because there's no such thing on
    any meat chart I've seen... so I have no way of knowing what I'm
    buying.

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    Chateaubriand ideas

    On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:25:20 -0700, "Kent"
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    Sigh....

    Beurre Rouge, is the same as Beurre Blanc, except made with red wine
    and red wine vinegar. Look at other sources as well. Richard
    Olney even talks about Beurre Blanc in his Simple French Food... He
    talks about it made with red wine as well. One only has to look at a
    recipe for Beurre Blanc to realize that made with red wine, it becomes
    beurre rouge.

    http://rogueestate.com/tag/beurre-rouge/

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    Chateaubriand ideas

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    No he is not kidding. Wine marinated prime rib roast is a pretty damn good
    dish. Just because Escoffier didn't come up with the idea does not make it
    bad.

    Kent, you seem like quite a dilettante to me. You have committed a couple
    of French cookbooks from 1900 to memory and now you profess to know all.
    And you scoff at anything not on those blessed pages. Do you actually cook?
    I suspect not.

    Dilettante.

    Paul

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    Only one glass of juice first. You don't want to go wee wee in your bed.

    Paul

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    Entire lobsters pulverized and pressed through a chinoise. They were just
    after the essence of the lobster, not the meat. Back then lobsters were
    just emerging from their previous stint as slave food in the South so nobody
    cared much. A lot of French cuisine of old was often very wasteful and
    extravagant, especially sauces. The peasants never cooked like that. Just
    the gentry.

    Paul

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    Chateaubriand ideas

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    His definition of waste would not be the one we recognize today.


    By waste he meant food that was left to spoil. He did not consider a
    sumptuous feast of ingredients that could feed an entire family of 12 just
    to make a sauce for 2 to be a waste. Now it those ingredients spoiled, that
    was a waste. He cooked for the wealthy who demanded sumptuous and
    extravagant dishes. No expense was spared to that end. Waste as in 20
    pounds of seafood to make a soup for a table of 4 or a whole 100 pound sea
    turtle for soup for the same table was not an offense to their standards.
    Back then there was ample supply and ample money. Waste had a whole
    different definition.

    Paul

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    A quick Google shows a buerre rouge to be a red wine butter sauce suitable
    for pretty much anything including seafood. By common definieiton it is the
    same as a buerre blanc made only made with red wine and red wine vinegar.
    Like this one from Epicurious:

    http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/fo...e-Rouge-102839

    Paul

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    I believe that's incorrect. The "blanc" refers to white butter, as opposed
    to "noir" which refers to black butter. Beurre blanc is any aqueous
    component emulsified with white butter, red wine, or white wine or ???

    I've seen the URL above. I don't think it's correct.

    Kent

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    Chateaubriand ideas

    On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 10:50:03 -0700, "Kent"
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    I haven't noticed chateaubriand at the Costco's I've shopped in - I've
    only seen primal cuts in the refrigerated section.

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    Chateaubriand ideas

    Paul M. Cook wrote:




    Thanks. I'm not sure I'll ever investigate such a sauce. ;-)


    Steve

 

 

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