PassThePopcorn or PassTheChildPorn

[Ms. Sutton]

Wow, there's a lot of legal experts in this thread ROFL. DWCreeper167, your username seems pretty appropriate now. The creepy way you've continued to handled this situation makes you a creep. I understand though, your still pissed off they demoted you from staff before this happened and you were just dieing for an excuse to act out your grudge.

While the rest of you white knight and sit on your high horses passing judgment, I'm going to continue using and enjoying the best movie tracker online. To some of you asking for PTP to delete your accounts - I'm sure they won't miss you that much. Aristocles I've seen your stats there. 100gb uploaded doesn't exactly make you an irreplaceable user.

Deal with spektormax and leave the rest of this drama out of bittorrent. The most this is going to do is lead to lots of traffic for Backie's blog. I'm sure he loves this shit.

[SSBB RULES]

This being said, I hope that the community can move past this incident, and that PTP will continue to flourish; despite my lack of involvement. I would like to also remind PTP staff, that your lack of trust in me, and not asking me first about the incident before posting in a public forum disheartens me greatly.

This is a load of BULL SHIT.

You posted those links to confirm their was child porn on a website....
Come on you sorry ass son of a bitch.

[tax cuts hurt the economy]

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a few sick pre's.

I called that one!

[illinoismommy]

no, it's me.

[rickle91]

So they found it amusing that he posted child pornography.

So tell me how much better Azazel is for sharing this, and how it's not as bad as what SpekTorMax done?

Azazel had ZERO intentions of spreading child pornography, but rather he came here to expose what Spektormax had did. (the Pictures where 404ed, so he didn't distribute anything illegal)
SpekTorMAX distributed pictures with the intention of spreading child porno. (also the links were active, so they did link to child pornography).

So since you love the to reference laws, I'll tell you that a guy who gives a link to a 404ed page (with the intention of correcting a issue), and a guy who gives a link to child porn are treated differently.

[Monica]

As I stated before, A founder directly reflects upon his assets.

If Steve Jobs was found to be a pedophile, apple stock would drop.
Same Situation (of course less assets) but the founder of a tracker is a representative for the whole tracker. (his inactivity is irrelevant, if even true)

I suppose he does in a way, although I'm not sure that's entirely fair. That reflection is one of implied association, not of actual structural attachment. The links to PTP are simply that he was a founder, and that he was involved in a conversation with a couple of other PTP staff when this occurred. That is it. However I've read suggestions in this thread that PTP is a front for CP distribution, that its current staff are involved etc etc etc. That in my mind is taking it far too far, not because I give a damn about that site, but because its just silly and as I said, distracts from the actual issue at stake.

To use your analogy, if Steve Jobs was accused of distributing illegal material, Apple's stock would drop undoubtedly. Briefly at least. However, would that mean that Apple's other senior executives were also distributing the same stuff, and that their whole company was actually a front for producing CP? Would it hell. Would that mean that some of his friends on the board, who'd known him years, might struggle to believe the allegations, or mightn't try to find some justification or excuse for them above and beyond how joe-public might? I bet it would.

And what if he was investigated and was found to have been innocent, unaware, unintentionally or accidentally involved? Because the initial accusations weren't aware if the entire context, circumstances or events? Would the smear on his name, and his company's, be entirely removed in the public's mind?

As I said, I'm not trying to defend PTP per-see, I just think it would do some people some favours not to be so entirely judgemental and not to draw such wide conclusions from what appears to be a very isolated incident ultimately involving just one person.

[assie]

you guys keep bringing up Azazel; fact of the matter is, no one cares about Azazel and why he's doing it. people are concerned about what he brought to the table, not why he's done so, which again is irrelevant.

As I know you do not live in the USA you may not be aware of how exactly CP laws here operate. Nothing SpektorMax did in that Skype conversation was illegal, and there is no basis to report him to the FBI despite the fact that the entire reason you are running this smear campaign is because z and exodussquard took no action, when there is no action that they could have taken except to report the images to teh staff of 510chan.

This is where you're wrong.

Spektormax has willingly shared links to images of child porn; this act by itself is strictly illegal in the US, and is actually a criminal offense (rather than downloading copyrighted material, which would be a civil offense); so the cops/FBI may very well be involved in this cyber crime. Distributing links to child porn via instant messaging services such as Skype is indeed a cyber crime in the USA.

If Azazel or anyone would like to take a step further against Spektormax's actions, you may contact Skype with the presented evidence, also report the cyber crime to the appropriate authorities http://www.justice.gov/criminal/cybe.../reporting.htm

Since Spektormax was stupid enough to post those links in a Skype convo, everything is logged over at Skype and the investigation will most definitely lead to his arrest. All of his internet activity will of course be investigated, which will involve PassThePopcorn, which he is/was the founder of.

This is why I'm saying that PassThePopcorn is obviously EXTREMELY insecure at the moment. If an official investigation is held, PTP will be investigated, members/emails/IPs will be taken by the authorities for evidence as the site might be linked to those child porn activities (considering that the links were posted in a conversation with PTP sysops/staff).

[carjim524]

FYI, spektormax's account was banned a few hours ago.

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The only thing I can say is that I am disgusted. I could not believe my eyes when I found out that what you're saying is true. I do believe what you say because you (obviously) provided us with screenshots.

I didn't type in the URLs or anything, but if spektormax is looking at those types of things, then I must say that it's something really sad of him to do. I never thought that the SysOp of a very large and well-known site would do something as repugnant as that.

[sumosak14]

assumptions and speculation.

are any of the ptp staff collaborating spektors explanation?