PassThePopcorn or PassTheChildPorn

[giftfromgod]

Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, slander (for transitory statements), and libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)—is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image. It is usually, but not always,[1] a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed (the claimant).

Pedomax and his cohorts have admitted that what has been said about him posting child porn is the truth. It's been admitted and publically accepted.

There is no slander here whatsoever. The claims would have to be false which they aren't for a case to be made.

[FishAddict !]

Thanks for the reply. I will say that actions done in a private conversation cannot reflect the site. If something like this was posted on our forums, or the IRC, it would be dealt with in site, and it would reflect on the site (if it was kept up, or sponsored by a staff member). However, a private Skype chat between two current site members (who didn't post anything in the chat), an inactive staffer (spektormax), and Azazel (a retired Legend/non-staff), is something that should not be tied to the site.

This is obviously important to us, because we don't want people to get the wrong impression. We have seen IRC logs, it was taken way out of context and yes, there will be some people upset. But we aren't role models, and this site is not being used as a communication device (such as forums, IRC, or private messaging), so it's unfair to tie the two together.

Thanks for everyones responses, whether positive or negative. I hope the chan site hosting the images is taken down and people behind the actual uploads have their IPs logs and are reported to their local authorities.

I think your getting the wrong impression from me.

I don't care where, who, and when your founder posted those links.
He is still a representative for your site.

How can a picture of an underage child be taken out of context?
There really isn't much confusion with the posting of such content.

The way you disassociate yourself with the founder inclines me to believe that he is guilty of posting unquestionable illegal content.
Further more your passing of the blame to 510chan is insulting to anonymous talk, as they work hard to remove any unacceptable pictures.
If such content was posted on 510chan the poster of the content will be ip banned from the website, and legal actions may be taken against them.

[Dtcenter77]

It also concerns me, that their was no immediate action taken...

It leads one to believe this type of content may have been posted even prior to the screenshot, that no one cared to act on.
There is no proof of this, but it does put off the feeling that it was accepted in the chat.

The important thing is he is banned now though...

[insulin_shooter]

I doubt that with around 20.000 hits so far on this thread, authorities aren't aware of this yet.

[João da Silva]

hang the bas**rds:angry::angry::angry:

Better yet, use a guillotine! :happy:

[littlezeus92]

I have decided that it is time to explain my actions to the community as these accusations have gone long enough. The following is a brief summary of the events of the 24 hours leading up to the incident:
Around 1-4am the night before, Z and I were speaking about various RC2 related things. I had been asked by him to run some numbers for the new bonus points system. After getting tired of 'working', Z mentioned that he had a Virtual Machine with Windows 95 on it. After we played around with the Windows 95 machine, we proceeded to move on to his XP Virtual Machine. Because it was a virtual machine, we decided to see how many viruses we could get installed on it and then see how the hooked into the kernel, what they connected to etc. I decided that the best way to acquire a large amount of viruses was to visit adult sites, as many of them will have you download 'video.exe' or other similar dangerous files.

However, after having some difficulty finding a site that hosted a virus, we decided to simply google for 'porn tube'. After going down 2 pages of links, we decided to skip to page 9 or so in order to have a higher chance of finding a less reputable site. This is were we encountered to our surprise a huge amount of child pornographic pictures which we moved on from and continued to search for more viruses.

The next day Z, exodusquared and I were in a skype conversation, while Azazel was in the chat (he was NOT part of the call). After discussing more RC2 related material, I had mentioned to exodusquared that Z and I had stumbled upon Child Porn on the internet, and that I was surprised how unhidden it was. Exodus and Z mentioned that its much more likely to stumble upon Child Porn on 4chan. To my disbelief after refreshing /b a few times, I did see child porn and some links to '510chan'. I posted a link to the tread as well a copy of the links in the thread, and asked if they thought these were child porn.

Approximately 5 minutes later I was informed by exodusquared that Azazel had contacted him over IRC and said that he was 'sickened by me, that he was going to leave PTP, and that he wanted my personal information.' He never spoke to me, or any of the skype chat; he simply spoke to exodusquared about it, and then went on his anti-ptp smear campain.

Had Azazel been present during the conversation, he would understand that the links were not posted for the purpose of disgusting anyone, but simply to confirm that indeed Z and exodusquared were correct in saying that there is Child Porn on 4chan an other xchan sites.

This entire situation has been blown WAY out of proportion by Azazel, instead of speaking to me, he has created an anti-ptp internet war for his own benefit. Regardless of this explanation, I have since been removed from PTP and my server access removed. I don't have much of a problem with this since my relationship with various PTP staff and site members has caused me to reconsider my involvement prior to this issue.

At the end of the day, I am providing this explanation to A immediately stop all of the 'mud slinging against PTP', regardless of my former association with the tracker, this incident was between a few friends, and does not have ANYTHING to do with PTP. B, I would like to make sure that everyone understand that I do not want the internet community to turn around and go after Azazel for down right lieing; the more the situation is spoken of, the worse it becomes. C, the actions that occurred do not violated US Federal law, as distribution must be of the material, and not the link. If it was against the law to simply link to child pornography, then google would have been in jail years ago. Thus while perhaps the links should not have been posted, not even in private; this action does not violate any laws. D, I would like to ask that this thread, and all others started from it stop immediately the association that Pham's child is in any way related to this incident, the comment was generated by Azazel, and I have IRC logs to prove it.

This being said, I hope that the community can move past this incident, and that PTP will continue to flourish; despite my lack of involvement. I would like to also remind PTP staff, that your lack of trust in me, and not asking me first about the incident before posting in a public forum disheartens me greatly.

Thank you very much for your time,
Spektormax
Former Founder and Sysop of PassThePopcorn.

[Think 1st]

I knew backie was going to write about this. He spent over an hour logged in this page.
This is the kind of material that fits to his blog.

In bad taste, devoid of any proven facts and totally immature?

[mekoe117]

Sorry to make this sound like a joke by the title but I’m hoping it got your attention. Many know me as Azazel and I used to staff at PassThePopcorn(PTP) and obviously use the name Azazel on countless other places as well. Tonight there was a little skype conference between the PTP sysops and I joined in to chat, joke, help or w/e. In this chat is myself, exodussquared(ptp sysop), Jeremy(ptp sysop name of z or jerrcs, jon(ptp developer and rl friend of Jeremy) and spektormax(ptp founder/sysop).

Not much was happening because they were talking via skype call and I was just typing as it’s late at night for me. Spektormax was posting random 4chan pics, some porn, some weird crap, typical 4chan stuff. Then he started posting 510chan links which I assumed was just like 4chan. Like the idiot I am I clicked the first 2 510chan links just to see child porn on my screen. I stopped clicking after that and started Pming the other ptp sysops about wtf was going on. I was disgusted obviously and left. I quit ptp irc and join another trackers irc. Anyway, here is a pic of the skype chat. These links ARE child porn and I beg you all not to type in the url.

I am posting this here because I am disgusted and beyond caring at the moment. This bastard deserves to be shot and it’s completely within PTP’s sysops hands to at the very least report him to the feds but instead they continued to chat with him like it’s no big deal. PTP obviously knows where he lives as he’s friends with some of the sysops in real life and yet they do nothing.

Anyway, think of this what you will but something needs to be done about this.

[mamma2b]

Let me say this, if there is a pedophile in a community where I live I'd want to know about keeping kids safe,this has to be the No1 priority.Someone leaks his info and the community took matters into their own hands and he was shot dead I wouldn't be shedding a tear

:yup:

I wish I lived in his neighborhood so I could see all the action. :lol: