Points of View : 17th October

[Marina]

You've your opinion, I've mine, so yes let's leave it at that.




Why do you hate the description?

I think it's an accurate description of the "style over substance" of a lot of people in many organisations and politics, who follow the mantra; "if you look good, some people will think you know what you're doing, even if you're talking nonsense."

So I'm afraid there will be plenty of opportunities in the future when the reference will definitely apply.

[mlou]

I just do - I find it to be a generic and dismissive term. Managers or controllers (or whatever their job title is) seems more appropriate to me. Then I judge them on the content of their presentation, answers or dialogue.

But maybe that's just me.

[xt3rmin8_1987]

Err..

It's meant to be, when I use it, as the BBC have a number of them who've been spouting nonsense for years and we're paying their inflated salaries.

I use it when I've witnessed a typical example, as here. This no doubt highly paid woman, tried to excuse the loud volume of the music about which there were complaints with "it may have sounded onerous as we'd shortened the programme."

You have to smile, don't you?

[thefirstone]

Just answering your question as to why I don't like the term.



Agreed on that one. An odd answer, although one where there is some perverse, if flawed, logic. If loud music is used correctly to highlight a particular scene or event within a programme, it might be accepted as adding to the tension/drama. But used in a short programme where no such tension or drama had been created (i.e used to create false dramatic tension) would make it overbearing. But that totally misses the point of the initial complaint.

[Ihkljhkjh]

The trouble is people think that just because something does not coincide with their point of view it is ''wrong''. Factual mistakes can be dealt with and shown to be right or wrong.But the BBC is not necessarily ''wrong'' just because you disagree with something somebody is saying.

[I Dream Of Writing]

Very true, and by the same token a programme producer is more likely than not to see his/her own creative decisions as being correct (otherwise those decisions would not have been taken in the first place).

Having said that, it would be refreshing to hear, once in a while, that they accept that on reflection, they got it wrong. It does happen sometimes, certainly on other programmes.

[dougness86]

Well the head of Radio 2 admitted the Jonathan Ross Sachsgate affair was wrong and she resigned over it (or rather got the bullet).And Peter Fincham admitted he got it wrong over that trailer for the BBC Queen docco and walked. So I suppose it does happen sometime.

[tRoUbLeDTeEn!!! :p]

Very much high-profile events though. But yes, it does happen.