Thread: "What's the answer to Global Warming"?

"Nuclear winter"
(Old joke favoured by politicians).

Is that why governments haven't any realistic / viable plans for alternative weather-proof shelters energy, transport etc.,
to ensure people survive?

Frightenng... but needs to be brought into the discussion...

(More info: http://www.the-alterntive.org.uk - see Chapter 13: War / Nuclear - do search for: Doomsday.)
littlerobbergirl: Thanks for the link. Do a search for: Quarantine, in my book on my website (http://www.the-alternative.org.uk).

ok a nuclear winter, is the event that is caused in theory by the mass use of atomic weapons and the ash and fallout that would in theory be caused.

the main problem with the Green Zone here is that people will not on a lot of occasions accept that there is a problem and that human actions can affect the world.
why?

simply no one has ever seen any thing like this before and there is the proof factor.

so in climate change or global warming you have a two cornered hat.

you have the traditionalists that use the data from ice cores, and the previous events that the data shows and the modders that look to see what impact humans have on the environment.

so what are natural impacts?

solar emissions these are solar winds, prominances, flares, and fuel use in that the star continues to get hotter as the fuel runs out. sun spot activity the mini ice age was caused due to a problem of no sun spot activity due to a moon or asteroid smashing into the sun.

volcanoes are important in terrain forming in that they emit large amounts of dust dirt and smoke and material, they can if they erupt large and prolonged events over many decades or are so massive that there effect can form a blanket of smoke can then cause a cooling trend.

hydrothermal vents, (black smokers) dump millions of tonnes of particulates into the sea and provide heat for living things at fantastic depths under the sea.

geomagnetic events polar shifts some planets flip there poles and geomagnetic events are in relation to hot rocks and magma displacements.

it is true that some planets do have cooling and warming cycles but i would say that you should check out all the evidence first.

right so a fine and well recorded list.

ok what is the human impact then with all that stuff going on naturally?

heres the deal, humans are emitting huge quantities of flu gasses and smoke and particulates that are in a suspended mass (the tropshere) a thin and barely effective gas cloud about 6 km thick giving breathable air up to 10,000 feet, ok hot gasses rise and are disapated into the atmosphere, the science where does all that energy go?

that is the fundemental question.

the science of what is the 'greenhouse effect,' is that a lot of the nuclear radiaton that is belched out of the sun every second a lot simply bounces off the Earth and is sent back into space, but some of the emmissions from human actions can repel that heat back to the planet and in turn then cause the atmospheric gasses to heat up.

some gasses are more prone to doing that action than others are.

these are:

methane.
carbon dioxides.
NOX or nitrous oxide.

so the row is, is it possible that the massive and continual emmissions of human actions be absorbed by the atmosphere and how does the planet disapate all that energy, as you know energy is not going to simply disappear it has to be sent or processed by natural process,, such as the carbon cycle, or nitrogen cycle.

so the arguments by American and a lot of scientists and some are realy well respected is that:

what impact does humans have and what is the long term effect going to be on the planet.

right of course people look out of there windows and see snow on the ground and say how can the world be heating up then?

well there is a difference between meterology and climatology.

stop pollution

Little robber girl actually has given a key piece of insight as to the method the warmers intend to use to drastically reduce world population. Targeted plagues against the populations they wish to reduce and anti toxin inoculations to the populations they wish to preserve. Very insightful answer my lady!