OT: It's Catherine with a C, folks

[danieleebutler]

On 5/1/2011 11:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

That's not correct. If William were to become king tomorrow, Kate would
become queen. William's great grandmother, the late "Queen Mother", had
a hereditary title but was not royalty.

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James Silverton, Potomac

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[Merk]

spamtrap1888 wrote:


A British sovereign can choose to be known, as sovereign, by any name
they choose, Queen Victoria's first name was "Alexandrina".

If you are referring to the present QUeens Father, George VI (Albert
Frederick Arthur George, known as Bertie in the family) it was felt at
the time that taking his fathers name would encourage a sense of
continuity after his brother Edward VIII abdicated.

Edward VIII was urged to choose some other name as his advisors at the
time felt an association with Edward VII would be, unfortunate.

Edward VIII was called David by his family.
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JL

[a?? iRuna??]

James Silverton wrote:

Ah ...minutia of British styles and titles, yes the Queen Mum was a
commoner but as a female & daughter of a Peer had no title of her own,
the styles of "Lord" and "Lady" are a courtesy extended to the children
of peers.

There are a few peerages in England below that of Duke that can be held
by a daughter or female relative in her own right, Countess Mountbatten
of Burma for example, but this must be included in the original letters
patent at the time of the creation of the peerage, and there are very
few of them.

Lady Elizabeth Bowes Lyon (The Queen Mum) did not have a hereditary title.

ANd Kate, if she remains married to Will, and he becomes King will
automatically become Queen CONSORT, nut not, like Wills grandmother, the
present QUeen Elizabeth II, a Queen Regnant, or holder of the title of
The Queen. SHe might very well be referred to as Queen Katherine, but
she will not be "The Queen."
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JL

[Anti -Silence]

On Sun, 01 May 2011 09:10:08 -0700, "M. JL Esq."
wrote:


Who???? Or did you mean Barbie and Ken?

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

[guineu]

sf wrote:

Liz and Phil (Mr. & Mrs. Mountbatten-Windsor) used to be satirically
referred to in certain social circles as "Brenda and Keith" .... just
knowing that really dates me
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JL

[abesvenom]

Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:



The presant Queen was Princess Elizabeth of York till her uncle Edward
VIII's abdication, when her father succeeded to the throne as George VI
and she went from being like, as in her sisters words, Princess
Elizabeth of York to Princess Elizabeth "of nothing."

There was some agitation at the time to have her declared Princess of
Wales in her own right but her Father refused, for various reasons, and
the style of Princess Royal means the eldest daughter of the sovereign
not the direct heir.

Only one can exist at a time and for most of the Queens reign it was an
Aunt of hers iirc, only since 1987 when she gave the style and title to
her daughter Anne, has Anne been written of as HRH The Princess Royal.

Technically it denotes the daughter that would inherit if all her other
brothers were unable to. And that based on a peculiarity of ENglish law
that makes daughters of what ever age or seniority equal "under the law'
for inheritance purposes. In most cases a daughter cant inherit though
she can transmit an English peerage.

A curious exception is the present Earldom of Mountbatten which is held
in her own right by Patricia Knatchbull 2nd Countess Mountbatten of
Burma. Whose husband is a mere Baron, albeit a 7th Baron Brabourne.
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JL

The ordinals/numerals became

[Mrs New ME]

In article , [email protected] says...

His fore names were Albert Frederick Arthur George; Albert after his
grandfather Prince Albert, consort of Queen Victoria and George after his
father the King.

When Bertie's elder brother King Edward caused a scandal, ending up with
the abdication crisis, there were fears it might threaten the survival of
the Monarchy.

The country needed to be convinced that the reserve prince would be a
completely committed King in his own right.Sharing the name of an
uncrowned consort, might hint he shared his grandfather's uncertain role
as side-kick. So to emphasise his line of succession and restore public
confidence in the continuity of the Monarchy, Albert was crowned as King
George, same as his father.

Janet