ok there are two shows i need help finding... first one is about grappling 3 episodes that i seen.... there is this feud between those old guys... one is mad that he lost because the other poked out his eyes or something and he say something about dont fright unless your ready to kill and end up have a son and teaches him his styles of fighting then the boy ends up fighting the guy with the lost eye... and they say something about dark arts or shadow techniques not sure

this is a link the the other help please
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AkKzFHVklltiuOWB_0O51kTsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid =20111003023532AASsAin