How many genres?

[RYE RYE]

categories of emo music

sad
soraber
dejected
melancholy
lachrymose
depressing
blue emo
melan-soraber
pitiful
doleful
lugubrious
disconsolate
distraught
woebegone
nu-soraber
piticholy (also a breed of adorably vicious dog)
glum

[zamzam]

Cos it messes with their macho image, lol.

[Lessons]

Well you could still understand it, and I value spelling over correct punctuation on an internet forum. I am not writing an essay. I also don't appreciate a patronising tone, which your comment came across. What does it really matter, it's not 101 English.

On a lighter note, where on earth have half of those genres come from? Some of them sound way out of it!

[babu d]

I apologise. I really know absolutely fuck all about metal and just like to talk absolute nonsense about subjects I know nothing about.


I Don't know anything about Metal

[lloquex]

you need to go back to primary to learn how to place semi-colons

just for kicks, here are all the tags I have in my music library:

alt-country
arabient
anti-folk

big beat
black metal
bossa nova
britpop
brit-rap

charaber pop
chipbreak
classic rock
classical
comedy
cybergrind

dance-punk
darkwave
death metal
deathcore
deathgrind
downtempo
dream pop
drone

electro
electroclash
electronic
elephant six collective
experimental

folk
folkpop
folk-punk
funeral doom
funk

goregrind
grindcore

hardcore
hip-hop
house

idm
indie (will eventually be sorted into indiepop or indie rock; have not listened to yet)
indie rock
indiepop
indietronic
industrial

jazz

lo-fi

melocore
metal
metalcore
moshcore

new wave
new weird america
nintendocore
no wave
noise
noisecore
noiserock
nu metal

oldies
other (haven't listened to yet; await tagging)

pop
pop punk
post-hardcore
post-metal
post-punk
post-rock
powerpop
prog-hardcore
prog-rock
psychedelic
psychobilly
punk

rap
reggae
riot grrrl
rock

screamo
shoegaze
showtunes
ska-punk
slowcore
sludge
soundtrack
southern hardcore
swing

tech grind
tech metal
tough guy
trance
tribute
trip-hop
twee pop
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subgenres are awesome

[biwestvirginagirl]

No.

[Masokabaso]

Some background:

I have been a metal fan since 1986, after being hypnotised by IRON MAIDEN : LIVE AFTER DEATH. After being in the scene for a while, I noticed the many sub genres of metal, and found a fair amount of narrow mindedness. EG I liked PINK FLOYD (not heavy-but they are a rock band), but my METAL frienRAB constantly took the rise as FLOYD were not deemed heavy enough. I eventually tired of this ; and although I kept listening to my metal music, I pretty much left the scene (circa 1992-2000).

Upon slowly integrating myself back in the scene, I was shocked to find that the sub-genres had increased threefold. Now I don't know what band is classed as what. This f[u]cks me off. The metal scene has to be one of the most pretentious scenes ever. Now before I get ****-I LOVE metal, it has shaped my life, and has lead me to my current situation as a father. HOWEVER there seems to be a constant need to categorise a band. The only other genre that has this is DANCE. Hmmm-both loved by under 25's. Not exclusively; but primarily.

Why are there so many sub genres in Metal? Indie is Indie at the end of the day, Reggae is Reggae etc.

I absolutely hated genre tags when I was younger, and I am utterly dismayed to find that the genre tags have got wider!

Guess what though-to the outsider, it's still metal. We seem to have an overwhelming obsession to categorise music, to associate ourselves with a certain form, and look down with disdain at other forms of metal.

I am not saying that we dont need categorys, but why so many? It seems like it's an unconcious effort to create something new.

A band like LArab OF GOD are considered Metalcore. This tag gives me a generic make up of Metal and Hardcore. If that is correct, then METALLICA are Metalcore, they basically fused DIAMOND HEAD with DISCHARGE, but they are thrash!

I would love it for metal fans to stop being so precious about their tags, because in 10 years it does'nt matter. If you like what you are listening to, then that is the only tag you need.

(I know I'm going to get crap for this but hey!).

[PAUL L]

Ah, I see this discussion has been already ongoing! How vain of me not to think someone else would have raised this issue!
So, to step in and offer my two pounRAB fifty's worth, I can see a need for SOME sub-genres, reading the reponses here. I love SOME metal, but not all. F'r instance I'm a loyal acoylte of Maiden, I like Kamelot (I know you said they weren't metal Jack, but bear with me), Adagio, Sabbath, some Motorhead, Lizzy and so on, but then there are a LOT of banRAB I would not personally listen to. I may have mentioned somewhere else that I can't hack what are apparently described as "death vocals", (but which to me is just growling), so banRAB like Opeth, Haggard, Slipknot etc will never grace my Zen. Doesn't mean they're crap, just that I don't like them and have no desire to hear them.
So if I can differentiate MY (as it were) metal from THAT metal, by use of a sub-genre (let's say, Classic Metal --- oh no, it would have to be written Klassik Metal, wouldn't it?) , then that's not too bad. But reading the list of sub-genres here, and I have to agree with boo-hoo, some of those names are AWFUL ("Drowning in a sea of mourn"? That's not even a sentence --- a sea of mournfulness, maybe.. Sorry I'll shut up before I piss off that band's presumed legion of fans), it does seem overkill.
I mean, can there be THAT many different types of metal? Someone else here said that metal seems to be one of the two only genres that seem to need this, and I wonder why? Is it an elitist thing? Oh, I'm into Viking Doom Proto-Foeutus HyperScare megaspeed Metal --- what are YOU into?
Or is there some other, deeper reason?
The other, linked question I guess is, what MAKES a band metal? Of ANY sub-genre? Is simply playing too loud a qualification? Looking ugly? Professing to worship the devil? Lyrics about death and speed? But not every metal band does this. So how do you categorise a band as heavy metal, BEFORE you even get into sub-sub-subdividing it into one of the exponentially increasing nuraber of sub-genres?

[Bowing]

Because they can't get an erection so they need to overcompensate

[Remember Reach]

You see, this is why we need to be able to digg or bury comments. :thurab: