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  1. #31

    Comparing Italy

    sf wrote:

    Usually, but not always.

  2. #32

    Comparing Italy

    Pete C. wrote:

    Yes, and the other big distortion in that silly comparison is in the infant
    mortality numbers. We count premature births - they don't. A direct
    comparison is ridiculous.


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  3. #33

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    On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 23:02:16 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
    wrote:


    Okay. Let's overhaul the system. You make this amount of money, you
    owe this much money. No loopholes, no deductions.

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  4. #34

    Comparing Italy

    On 4/15/2011 5:06 PM, Landon wrote:

    Now I cover us with MedJet Assist so I can get evacuated without having
    to do battle with a paramedic who was the "medical expert" calling the
    shots for the insurance company. One would think that having $1,000,000
    in medical evacuation coverage would have gotten him home.

    We have traveled since the incident in Italy and we will continue to
    travel as long as he's up to it.

    It was very difficult on both of us. I am ever grateful to Royal
    Caribbean who gave me an angel of a port agent to assist me and to
    translate and who assigned me a young woman at their corporate offices
    who did battle with the insurance company and got us home.

    We've been in every state and every Canadian province as well as the
    Yukon Territory. We had a coup0le of medical emergencies while traveling
    and the hospitals were wonderful.


    The insurance isn't much at all. Gas is high. While planning our summer
    trip with the RV, I told my DH we could probably take a cruise for less.
    He said we could buy a cruise ship for less :-)

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  5. #35

    Comparing Italy

    On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:11:09 -0400, [email protected] (Sharon C)
    wrote:


    Maybe you need to read your policy more carefully. Many medical
    policies insist on "in-network" MDs, and the attending medical
    professional must be an MD, not a PA. And usually there is a higher
    co-payment for specialists... so the primary you see for referals is
    not in network or an MD and your specialist is an MD and in network
    that could explain your dilemma. If you're being seen by an out of
    network facility and not by an MD you are essentially paying insurance
    premiums for nothing. Go to your insurance company web site, there
    should be a listing of in-network MDs in your area... you may need to
    go elsewhere. When I first moved here I had a similar problem, when I
    caled to ask if a doctor takes my insurance they lied, they said that
    I'd have to pay them and submit the bill to the insurance company for
    reimbursement, of course they wre out of network but never disclosed
    that, plus many use a private company for billing which makes it very
    difficult to get things straightened out. It took me over a year to
    find in-network doctors that I liked and weren't too far to travel. I
    discovered that many doctors/facilities in hillybilly land don't meet
    the standards for in-network status. A PA operates under the auspices
    of an MD, that MD will need to sign off on the form with his or her ID
    No. for you to get paid. A lot of PAs have huge egos, they won't
    present themselves has not having the authority of an MD. Check it
    out.

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    On Apr 17, 7:08?am, "Pete C." wrote:


    So, the sacrifices our veterans made to secure for us the blessings of
    liberty were in vain, because nothing that required the labor of
    others can ever be a right? Not only was their labor required, but in
    many cases their health, and in some cases their lives were required.

    I imagine Pete C. going to national cemeteries on Memorial Day,
    thinking, "Suckers!".

  7. #37

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    "Pete C." ha scritto nel messaggio
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    no,noit that either

  8. #38

    Comparing Italy

    Giusi wrote:

    Sorry, I just looked up the exact numbers and my costs for medical,
    dental and vision insurance amount to 1.52% of my gross income.

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    "Steve Pope" wrote in message
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    I'm looking at the total cost of health care, that paid privately and that
    paid from public funds. That portion paid pubicly is from taxes.The taxpayer
    is paying the taxes and from that for his healthcare. I think the amount
    Americans pay for health care outside the U.S. is less than 1% of the total
    cost. If you could find that amount, you could add it to the public funds
    and private funds, though I think it's insignificant.

    Kent

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    Comparing Italy

    In article , [email protected] says...

    Catch this ball Pete; you said

    "Also realize that the small high population density countries in Europe
    can better get away with socialized health care because of their small
    size which allows a relatively small number of government health care
    facilities can serve the bulk of the population, something that is not
    possible in the vastly larger and lower population density US.

    USA covers 3,794,083 sq miles. Population density 87 per square mile.

    Australia covers 2,941,299 sq m, population density < 8 per square mile.

    Australia has socialised health care, everywhere.


    Janet

 

 

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