Thread: With the economy in the toilet, and jobs so scarce, should all illegal aliens be deported?

JFK Vs The Federal ReserveBy John P. Curran4-19-7On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, <executiveorder11110.htm>Executive Order 11110, was signed with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business. The Christian Law Fellowship has exhaustively researched this matter through the Federal Register and Library of Congress. We can now safely conclude that this Executive Order has never been repealed, amended, or superceded by any subsequent Executive Order. In simple terms, it is still valid.When President John Fitzgerald Kennedy - the author of Profiles in Courage -signed this Order, it returned to the federal government, specifically the Treasury Department, the Constitutional power to create and issue currency -money - without going through the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank. President Kennedy's Executive Order 11110 [the full text is displayed further below] gave the Treasury Department the explicit authority: "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This means that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation based on the silver bullion physically held there. As a result, more than $4 billion in United States Notes were brought into circulation in $2 and $5 denominations. $10 and $20 United States Notes were never circulated but were being printed by the Treasury Department when Kennedy was assassinated. It appears obvious that President Kennedy knew the Federal Reserve Notes being used as the purported legal currency were contrary to the Constitution of the United States of America."United States Notes" were issued as an interest-free and debt-free currency backed by silver reserves in the U.S. Treasury. We compared a "Federal Reserve Note" issued from the private central bank of the United States (the Federal Reserve Bank a/k/a Federal Reserve System), with a "United States Note" from the U.S. Treasury issued by President Kennedy's Executive Order. They almost look alike, except one says "Federal Reserve Note" on the top while the other says "United States Note". Also, the Federal Reserve Note has a green seal and serial number while the United States Note has a red seal and serial number.President Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963 and the United States Notes he had issued were immediately taken out of circulation. Federal Reserve Notes continued to serve as the legal currency of the nation. According to the United States Secret Service, 99% of all U.S. paper "currency" circulating in 1999 are Federal Reserve Notes.Kennedy knew that if the silver-backed United States Notes were widely circulated, they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve Notes. This is a very simple matter of economics. The USN was backed by silver and the FRN was not backed by anything of intrinsic value. Executive Order 11110 should have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level (virtually all of the nearly $9 trillion in federal debt has been created since 1963) if LBJ or any subsequent President were to enforce it. It would have almost immediately given the U.S. Government the ability to repay its debt without going to the private Federal Reserve Banks and being charged interest to create new "money". Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S.A. the ability to, once again, create its own money backed by silver and realm value worth something.Again, according to our own research, just five months after Kennedy was assassinated, no more of the Series 1958 "Silver Certificates" were issued either, and they were subsequently removed from circulation. Perhaps the assassination of JFK was a warning to all future presidents not to interfere with the private Federal Reserve's control over the creation of money. It seems very apparent that President Kennedy challenged the "powers that exist behind U.S. and world finance". With true patriotic courage, JFK boldly faced the two most successful vehicles that have ever been used to drive up debt:1) war (Viet Nam); and,2) the creation of money by a privately owned central bank. His efforts to have all U.S. troops out of Vietnam by 1965 combined with Executive Order 11110 would have destroyed the profits and control of the private Federal Reserve Bank.Executive Order 11110AMENDMENT OF EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 10289 AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE PERFORMANCE OF CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AFFECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY. By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows:SECTION 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended, is hereby further amended - (a) By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j): "(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12, 1933, as amended (31 U.S.C. 821 (b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denominations of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption," and (b) By revoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof. SECTION 2. The amendment made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made.JOHN F. KENNEDY THE WHITE HOUSE, June 4, 1963Once again, Executive Order 11110 is still valid. According to Title 3, United States Code, Section 301 dated January 26, 1998:Executive Order (EO) 10289 dated Sept. 17, 1951, 16 F.R. 9499, was as amended by:EO 10583, dated December 18, 1954, 19 F.R. 8725;EO 10882 dated July 18, 1960, 25 F.R. 6869;EO 11110 dated June 4, 1963, 28 F.R. 5605;EO 11825 dated December 31, 1974, 40 F.R. 1003;EO 12608 dated September 9, 1987, 52 F.R. 34617The 1974 and 1987 amendments, added after Kennedy's 1963 amendment, did not change or alter any part of Kennedy's EO 11110. A search of Clinton's 1998 and 1999 EO's and Presidential Directives has also shown no reference to any alterations, suspensions, or changes to EO 11110.The Federal Reserve Bank, a.k.a Federal Reserve System, is a Private Corporation. Black's Law Dictionary defines the "Federal Reserve System" as: "Network of twelve central banks to which most national banks belong and to which state chartered banks may belong. Membership rules require investment of stock and minimum reserves." Privately-owned banks own the stock of the FED. This was explained in more detail in the case of Lewis v. United States, Federal Reporter, 2nd Series, Vol. 680, Pages 1239, 1241 (1982), where the court said: "Each Federal Reserve Bank is a separate corporation owned by commercial banks in its region. The stock-holding commercial banks elect two thirds of each Bank's nine member board of directors".The Federal Reserve Banks are locally controlled by their member banks. Once again, according to Black's Law Dictionary, we find that these privately owned banks actually issue money:"Federal Reserve Act. Law which created Federal Reserve banks which act as agents in maintaining money reserves, issuing money in the form of bank notes, lending money to banks, and supervising banks. Administered by Federal Reserve Board (q.v.)".The privately owned Federal Reserve (FED) banks actually issue (create) the "money" we use. In 1964, the House Committee on Banking and Currency, Subcommittee on Domestic Finance, at the second session of the 88th Congress, put out a study entitled Money Facts which contains a good description of what the FED is: "The Federal Reserve is a total money-making machine. It can issue money or checks. And it never has a problem of making its checks good because it can obtain the $5 and $10 bills necessary to cover its check simply by asking the Treasury Department's Bureau of Engraving to print them".Any one person or any closely knit group who has a lot of money has a lot of power. Now imagine a group of people who have the power to create money. Imagine the power these people would have. This is exactly what the privately owned FED is!No man did more to expose the power of the FED than Louis T. McFadden, who was the Chairman of the House Banking Committee back in the 1930s. In describing the FED, he remarked in the Congressional Record, House pages 1295 and 1296 on June 10, 1932:"Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks. The Federal Reserve Board, a Government Board, has cheated the Government of the United States and he people of the United States out of enough money to pay the national debt. The depredations and the iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks acting together have cost this country enough money to pay the national debt several times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the United States; has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the maladministration o

Yes, do we not come first, true Americans!!!

Kick them back over the border.

With what it would cost right now to deport all illegals and the state of our economy, it would not be in our best interests to do it. What needs to be done is to keep focus on our borders and concentrate on keeping additional illegals from entering. We need to upgrade and toughen up our borders, invest in more jobs pertaining to security and patrols. There should also be tougher laws against American businesses hiring illegals especially now with our high unemployment rate. We need to take care of our existing American citizens first.

The economy would have been down the toilet long ago if it hadn't been for them

IM SO DISGUSTED WITH ALL THE ANSWERS.BEING ILLIGAL IS NOT A CRIMINAL. CRIMINAL IS DOING DRUGS, KILLING SOMEONE.THEY ARE NOT STEALING ANY JOBS FROM ANYBODY. THEY JUST DO THINGS WHITE PEOPLE ARE DISGUSTED TO DO. YES THEY CLEAN YOUR TOILETS, THEY WORK IN FIELDS. WHAT WHITE PERSON WOULD WORK AS THAT?THEY ARE WORKING AND MAKING M-O-N-E-Y FOR THE COUNTRY. BESIDES THAT DEPORTING THEM WOULD COST $$$.BUT OF COURSE WHO WOULD ASK THAT? SOMEONE THAT THINKS THEY ARE SUPERIOR LIKE YOU?WHAT DONT WE JUST KICK OUT THOSE AMERICAN CITIZENS THAT ARE BLAMING THE ECONOMY ON THOSE WHO WORK AND TRY TO MAKE A LIVING? DUMASS

good luck finding them all.

The economy didn't collapse because of illegals. And jobs aren't scarce because of illegals. Jobs are scarce because our jobs are being deported.

No, and the reasons are the following:thanks to them, they are doing the jobs that many Americans don't want to do, they are not taking those jobs from anybody, is just that SOME people don't want them,and if the economy is in the toilet, you need to thank the last administration for spending millions of dollars for the military in that war, that we lost, remember Vietnam too, will see now if the military receive the same amount of money that they were receiving all these years, because if there is no money, no contracts even for militaryand last, it's impossible to deport all of them, we need a good reform

No, as long as they aren't involved in criminal behavior, gross misconduct, tax evasion, etc., and want to file papers to legally live here. Consider deporting only those who have a criminal record.Those arrested for gross misconduct, robbery, murder, sexual crimes, drug dealing, abusing others should be deported quickly.There are other reasons why the country, and the world is getting worse, immigrants aren't the reason for this.The list is too long to include everything here, but think about about the way food is thrown away instead of feeding people. How corrupt people in charge misuse, misdirect, and greedily take money that should go for schools, health care, affordable home building projects, etc. If there were no people in a country except just the born citizens of that country, do you really think that these problems would be solved? Do you think there is any government, or financial institution that is free from corruption and error? Absolutely not. *Not too many people stop to think about, and realize that their grand/great grand parents were immigrants too. They had a chance didn't they?