NEED to end this debate once and for all... For either card cyber eltanin or evil dragon Ananta (exodius ultimate as well) if you have no reptiles or machines (light) on the field or in the graveyard; can these cards be special summoned from your hand. For example you have no cards in graveyard or on the field; by removaing ALL necessary creatures from field and/or graveyard which is equal to 0; do you special summon them and they end up on the field with 0 atk and 0 def.? Another example you have no machine (light) or reptiles on the field and/or the graveyard so you remove ALL of necessay monsters that you have from play on your side of the field which equals 0 do you have attk of 0 and def 0 monster spec summ. out there? Or Yet another one, if you shufle all nl monsters fropm GY into your deck, which if you have none in graveyard is 0; does exodius ultimate come special summoned with attk and def 0?

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